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Post by kami on Dec 21, 2007 16:27:58 GMT -5
IM SICK OF U KIT! I HAVE BEEN TRYING AND IM SICK OF UR RANTING! NOT AL OF US AN POST LIKE U OR SHATAN! DAY AFTER DAY ALL I HEAR IS "NOT ENOUGH DESCRIPTION" OR NOT ENOUGH OF THIS! Y DO WE NEED FACEAL EXPRESSIONS. NO ONE CARES WHAT UR FACE LOOKS LIKE! so...im thinking of quiting...but im going to say something...enev shatan doesn't critasise my rping...she might think it and try and help me...but she doesn't stalk every post and say that i need a 300 word post. my rule is this: as long as some one can reply, i dont care what its about i dont care about anything (except powerplaying...thats the only one), as long as they reply...i also dont care how long it is...so thats all i have to say for now...hope u all keep on posting and have fun...if any1 wants me to stay then PM me and try and change my mind
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Post by KitsuneMIKO on Dec 21, 2007 16:46:56 GMT -5
Lol I’m flattered, though I would like to take the time to point out that you missed using spell check. The reason that Zen had never criticized you is because she leaves it up to me, it was her idea for the word limit. I run all my rants through her first, so I suggest you take those lovely comments back. It states in the rules that this is an Intermediate site, and as a mod its my job to make sure posts are up to that standard. To be intermediate you NEED to have that lovely and painfully intricate detail thrown into every post. So if you do have a problem with me being on your case then leave because I don’t want to deal with your crap anymore.
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Post by kami on Dec 21, 2007 16:51:28 GMT -5
then it takes everything fun out of rping...rping is supposted to be fun, a way to get away from the real word and get into our own...its not like we're writing stories...everything doesn't have to be so god d**n descriptive...
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Post by Shatan on Dec 21, 2007 17:03:39 GMT -5
By the way, so no one thinks that Kit is lying, I did check all her rants and say they were fine; I wrote those rules myself and, like she said, this is an Intermediate and up site; the reason being I want the posts to be of a higher standard. I had already considered placing a word minimum in the rules, but thought that it wouldn’t be necessary, though I’m seeing now that I may have been wrong. I don’t mind short posts if that’s all you can manage, but at least check grammar and spelling, because otherwise it’s really incredibly painful to read; it’s actually a lot more difficult for others to read bad posts than it is for the one posting to put in that extra effort to make the post better. If you’re willing to try harder, we’d have no problem with you staying, but it looks to me that your posts haven’t changed in the slightest since we began giving you tips. And as for taking the fun out of RPing, you should take a look around at some other sites; plenty of people post 1000 words or more in every single post and have just as much (if not more) fun as you have in writing short posts. If anything, the short, badly written posts that you write take the fun out for everyone else, because they’re nothing there to reply to. For just about every RPer I know, the length of their posts is determined by the length of the post they’re replying to, so by not giving enough for us to reply to, you in turn shorten our posts, which can get quite irritating for someone like me who is constantly trying to improve. I myself am about to re-join a site I joined a while back and found too advanced for me, because I’m going to try again at getting better, and while I can understand that getting criticized is no fun, I’m willing to take any criticism I get and use it to improve. The people on that site can manage more than 6000 words to a post, making what I can manage look puny, but I’d rather be told that I suck (which, compare to them, I do) and try to get better, than role-play with someone worse than me who doesn’t do anything to help my skill to improve. I know that not everyone has the drive to improve their writing as much as I do, since I plan to become a professional author so I strive to improve my writing in every way, so I don’t expect everyone to strive and strive to reach 6000 word posts, but it shouldn’t be too much to ask for other role-players to manage at least a couple hundred words to a post, and good ones at that. I know we all have to start somewhere, and I’ll be the first one to tell you that when I started RPing, I sucked horribly with Mary-Sue characters and bad RPing skills, but I challenged myself to get better and took every comment I received and used it to improve. One of my old RPing friends was admin of a site I was on when first starting out, and because she was so strict on me, instead of giving up, I used her comments to get better. So, all this boils down to the fact that, perhaps Kit shouldn’t have been quite so harsh (though I can name a number of people on other sites that would have been much harsher) but she’s right, and it shouldn’t be too much to expect of you to improve your post length and description, not to mention basic grammar and spelling. We aren’t asking you to write a book for each post, just a couple hundred words that give us something to reply to so that we can all have fun.
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Post by kami on Dec 21, 2007 17:19:18 GMT -5
yeah...but seeing as though ive NEVER rped inuyasha on a site...i used to go on Dusky Meadows: Boarding School for the Gifted...but then i used to go on too much and to this day im not supposted to go on...but since my friends stopped going on MSN i had to do something...so i joined this site, hoping that somewhat nice people wouldn't mind...but all i can hear is that im a nusince...then others try and help me improve and i tried...but no matter what the hell i posted u all said it was too short or not enough description...but who cares what your faces looks like when one person says to another. all i want to do is rp...my friend even said that i only powerplayed 3 times through out the whole time i rped with her...now all i can hear is not enough description (im sure i said that already but i still make my point) or its too short...
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Post by Shatan on Dec 21, 2007 17:59:23 GMT -5
You may have been trying, but to us it did not look as though you were trying at all; your grammar was still lacking and spelling still needed work, there was no change in length, and no added description. And while you’ve said several times now that facial expressions aren’t important, they actually really are; my characters often judge quite a lot off of another character’s facial expression and body language. Someone can say one thing and be lying through their teeth, so dialogue is only part of the RP. Facial expressions would determine whether or not that lie was believed, body language tells one character if another is about to attack or if they’re a friend, if they’re gung-ho about something or hesitating, if they’re happy or sad or afraid or whatever. From RPing horses for quite a while, I’ve learned that, nine times out of ten, body language is far more important than dialogue, and that more often than not applies to other types of RPing. But if there’s no description of the body language and facial expressions given, then all we have to go on is dialogue which can be ridiculously annoying if it leads to a character doing something stupid because they believed something that was an utter lie because the RPer didn’t know that it was a lie in the first place. Also, the whole thing with length is that, if you’re forced to fill a certain number of words, then you often turn to describing things, so in setting a minimum we’re trying to help you. By the way, I requested in the rules not to curse, and since this is in no way anything so big a deal as to curse over, please refrain from it and let’s discussed this respectfully, alright? I’m more than happy to let you stay and help you improve, but I do not tolerate members disrespecting the staff; we work hard to make this a good site, and in turn we’d prefer to be respected and our work acknowledged. So, don’t get mad and curse at me or Kit, since we’re both just trying to help, in addition to everything else we do to keep this site running smoothly.
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Post by KitsuneMIKO on Dec 21, 2007 18:01:18 GMT -5
OH shut up and read all the stinking posts, obviously no matter what we tell you its not getting through your thick skull. You don’t have to rp here and I could care less if you don’t have anyone to talk to. But like Zen said we are both willing to help you improve, I know I’m being a bit cruel right now but I don’t take kindly to being disrespected. I corrected you with your grammar and gave you suggestions nicely to begin with but after the third time I snapped. The fact that you seemed not to be even trying was to me a way of being disrespectful. If I’m not going to be respected then by no chance will I give any respect to the person who is being so rude. Nor will I tolerate you ignoring my friends comments. So if you do not suck up your pride and just listen to what we’ve told you then I will ban you!
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Post by kami on Dec 21, 2007 18:08:46 GMT -5
yes and i understand that but putting a limit on what we post is ridiculous! think about it, if i was to post something that had so much description then its too much and theres so much u cant remember the first thing u read. if i post something that has so much going on then people dont know what to reply to or say or do. im not saying that some discription is good, but too much and people lose interent because someone keeps on putting in random discription that doesn't need to be in there. if posts were some what shorter and had a little less discription then we could get posts in faster and not have to wait 20 minutes for someone to read a bunch of confusing discription or dialouge...
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Post by Shatan on Dec 21, 2007 18:24:20 GMT -5
Alright, just to let you know, a word limit is not ridiculous and there are quite a few admins that would take offense to you saying that, because there are quite a few sites that have word minimums in the rules and the role-players are actually quite fine with it. Why? Because the description is not simply random or too much; if you have to re-read the post or certain parts of it a few times, it wouldn’t kill you; I do that anyways, regardless of the size of the post. And as for too much going on, you can’t ever have too much going on. It just means that, in replying, the post will be longer in order to reply to everything, but that simply makes it better. More detail, if it is carefully thought about and relevant, will actually make your posts more interesting, it just takes some work to get it that way, but you have to be willing to take the time for that extra work. If you need help with it, I’d be more than happy to show you some of the more lengthy but still wonderfully interesting posts on other sites to give you an idea. If you don’t want my help, however, and aren’t going to improve on your own, then you’ll have to leave, because the lack of grammar in your posts is likely to make potential members think the sight isn’t worth their time, thus defeating the purpose of everything I’m trying to do in order to get people to join. And this is final; I know that Kit’s been threatening it, but as Admin I’m stepping in and saying that if you continue to argue this, I’ll ban you myself, because with two honor classes this semester, three next semester, an entire project to do by the end of Christmas break, and a number of other things (I’m not going for a sob story here) I’m far too busy to keep arguing this.
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Post by kami on Dec 21, 2007 19:12:34 GMT -5
im not trying to argue...all im saying is that not every1 can put 300 words or 2000 words into one post without knowing what the person started with...and i have been trying but i cant put too much discription in it because then i dont even know what i was going to post...all im saying is that i have been trying but u guys dont believe me...
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Post by Toko No Yami on Dec 21, 2007 20:08:18 GMT -5
Kami, is English your first language? Because the only valid excuse for you to have such horribly bad grammar and otherwise mangled sentences is if your new to English, then perhaps you would deserve a little bit of leeway but from what Kit's been telling me you've barely improved since she first confronted you and now your trying to say shes overbearing and hounding you and this and that when really shes not. Then you try to say that descriptions are not necessary when in all truth its what makes an rp enjoyable. You need to suck it up and either move on or get better, I'm not ashamed at all to say that I didn't think I was anywhere near good enough to be on this site which is why I did not join and instead found a slightly more beginner friendly site to rp on. You should either do the same as me or just shut up and get better.
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Post by KitsuneMIKO on Dec 21, 2007 22:06:45 GMT -5
^___^ *tackles Kiyara* and this is why your one of my best friends! But seriously Kami if you can’t think of what your post is going to be then don’t post it until you do. When you rp it is going to be very much like a story, or acting either way its very important to plan things out before you write them If you have trouble coming up with stuff then first write your short posts then plug in more stuff to make it sound more interesting. If you aren’t able to think of anything easily then try reading more books, those always help inspire me. Unlike Zen I don’t plan on becoming a writer, in fact I use to be one of the worse students in my English class, so I use to dislike writing very much. But because certain rpg sites I got into were really strict with me I managed to get to the rps I’m at right now. Lol now if I had come to this site when I first started then my posts would have been worse then yours. They would of stayed like that if I hadn’t had a mod rip me a new one because of all my cruddy posting then I would probably still suck. So you see I’m not just picking on you for the fun of it,…though it is amusing to see your reactions, I am trying to help you improve. But I am suggesting you find a different site where you can start at a smaller pace with out being overwhelmed by large posts. If you want I can find a site that will be more at your speed. OH and if anyone comments on my grammar…even though it does suck I can say English was NOT my first language lol I was a mute up until I was 5 <.< and wasn’t talking in complete sentences until age 9 >.<
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Post by kami on Dec 22, 2007 23:34:20 GMT -5
its not that i dont know what to post...i have millions of ideas, thoughts and plots going through my head...but non of them tie into an Inuyasha theme...i mean i dont read much books but i get my ideas from video games and movies...like Kami's powers... that all came from Okami, a japanese game which is a great game. I thought about having a Hover board from Jax and Daxter 2, but its not of the same time period. or in the movie NEXT, I can think of a way to plug it in, but then it would be like god-modelling if i knew every1's moves before they made them...
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Post by Toko No Yami on Dec 23, 2007 0:04:05 GMT -5
First off please put apostrophes where they need apply such as on those don'ts second of all please capitalize all the I's, I is always capitalized! Third of all its Jak and Daxter not Jax and Daxter Forth don't use so many ellipses fifth its god-moding and lastly please don't use txt talk like you did when you said every1 instead of everyone how hard is it to type two more letters?
Now to address what you just said I have to say that taking other people's ideas is not creative at all and does not mean you have tons of ideas it means OTHER people have tons of ideas you like. Its ok to develop original ideas around concepts of other people but out right taking them is called plagiarism, needless to say most people frown upon this. Its ok to be inspired by things but taking them and just using them for yourself is lame and makes you look stupid if people know where you got it from. Get an imagination, learn English, and develop your skill to where you can post inside the restrictions of whatever site your on whether the restrictions be rule or story wise.
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Post by kami on Dec 23, 2007 9:15:19 GMT -5
Im not taking the ideas, I take them and modify them slightly, this way I keep the original idea and then add what I want to them. and since I dont want to leave, shatan wants me to stay and Kit doesn't care then Im sure that we can make a deal where everyone is happy...right?
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